As he carried her outside, he thought that she felt lighter than she had that day when he had held her, all warm and pink-cheeked and laughing, in his arms. He would try to remember to ask Father Brandt how much a soul weighed.
Lotherian Tear-jerkers
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 10/17/2009 - 10:08.
Ri asked me today in the chat what I thought was the weepiest month in Lothere history. I wasn't sure, so I started thinking about which months might have had the most tear-inducing chapters (either in number of chapters or in sheer number of tears cried). And I am thinking about making a "storyline" of the saddest chapters, just as I have done for the steamiest chapters.
Therefore I wanted to ask the question of you guys. Which are the chapters that really made you cry? I mean really really? I don't mean "OMG Lena is dead, therefore I am sad", but because the feeling of the chapter itself, and the quality of the writing used to portray it, was sad or poignant in some profound way.
And as long as I'm asking the question, have you ever REALLY, and I mean LITERALLY cried tears while reading this story? I am quite curious. I wonder sometimes if "I cried" is like "LOL" -- an expression not to be taken literally, meaning "Gee, Lothere, that was really sad." Just as the quantity of Pepsi supposedly sprayed through people's noses onto their keyboards and screens probably surpasses the total amount of Pepsi manufactured since the invention of the Internet.
Anyway, I will try to remember the chapters that made or make me tear up. (I think I have only cried once or twice. I cry for movies, but almost never for books.) They don't have to be TRAGIC and SAD, either, but at the moment I can't think of any Lotherian "Triumphs of the Human Spirit" so poignant they bring tears to my eyes. (I would have liked to see Sigi run into the surf to meet Eirik just once, though.)
Here goes:
- "Dunstan copies two letters and a reply" (Dunstan and Alred react to Matilda's death.)
- "Gunnilda has an unexpected visitor" (Gunnilda holds Egelric's hand -- retroactively KILLS ME because they came THAT CLOSE... and then Egelric went out and got hounded by that tarty little elven what's-her-name)
- "Sigefrith tells the plain truth" (Sigefrith tells Cubby that Magog is his father)
- "Lar loses his fourth and last" (Dasi is killed)
- "Ethelwyn face the night" (Ethelwyn finds his baby dead)
- "Alred sees no poetry" (Alred meets Matilda as a ghost)
- "Cedric learns what matters" (Leofric at his most sublime)
- "Ethelwyn is touched by the ghost of a man" (Egelric is arrested)
But there are probably more How-could-I-forgets out there. Help me think of them!
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Submitted by Cassie on Sat, 10/17/2009 - 11:29.Yeah, there have been actual, literal tears. That chapter with Dunstan and Alred, of course. And also the one where Matilda is about to give birth to Margaret. That one is even sadder now than it was the first time I read it.
There are a couple of other Matilda-death-related ones that have yielded tears, but I can't remember which specifically. Oh, also I think that one where Alred was talking to Sigefrith about Gwynn's eventual marriage, and how Matilda told him to tell her: "Until you have someone who loves you this much, wait." Whenever I read that one, I'm a goner.
And Dasi's death, of course. That one got me. And possibly one of the chapters narrated by Seven. Nothing like a child's POV to get you going. Also, the Egelric beating chapter didn't make me cry, but it did give me the shakes, so I'm sure that counts for something.
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Aha! The Margaret birth
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 10/17/2009 - 11:50.Aha! The Margaret birth chapter is a How could I forget? And as you say, it only gets more moving as time goes on. I imagine it will kill us all when we reread it after Alred gives Gwynn the Psalter.
I also hesitated on "Alred and Matilda come to say goodbye" [to Colburga]. Definitely not some of my best prose, but we get a glimpse deep into Alred's soul in that chapter.
I could totally do a separate post on "Heart-pounders" or whatever. Egelric's lickin', Malcolm finding Iylaine missing on their wedding night, Kraaia seeing Lena getting killed, some of the rape-ish chapters. The scary, edge-of-your-seat chapters. For this one I was going for tears. (That's why I am thinking... even though it was "sad" that Lena was killed, "sad" was definitely not the mood of that chapter nor many of the following chapters.)
I see what you mean about Seven. The one where Lar tries to tell him the fate of the elves as a (sick and twisted) bedtime story, and he realized that the idea -- too enormous far Lar himself to comprehend -- had just sunk into Seven's wee mind, never to be extracted. *shivers*
I do love that one chapter with Sigefrith and Alred discussing Gwynn's future before the fire. With Sigefrith grudgingly admitting the poetic rightness in that, out of love for Alred and Matilda. We don't see their relationship enough.
I must report that I just reread "Alred sees no poetry" and I cried yet again. The "WRITING in your BOOKS!" exchange, and the "There was much Matilda in it", and the picking the last little joke like a flower and offering it to her.... I'm going to get going again just thinking about it.
Ach so! I think we were
Submitted by Cassie on Sat, 10/17/2009 - 11:59.Ach so! I think we were talking about tear-jerking chapters the summer before last, as well, and I got myself crying at work. The Alred and Matilda stuff just kills my poor little heart!
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I've never cried but I was
Submitted by Devin on Sat, 10/17/2009 - 12:13.I've never cried but I was close to tears with some chapters. I remember Maud's last chapter and she was talking about Athelis, and how Sigefrith told her that Athelis was in heaven and the dogs weren't eating her. When Maud said "Athelis fell and went to heaven?" I knew right then and there that Maud was going to die. I remember just shaking my head saying no over and over again.
The chapter when Lena's killed, sadness was not my first emotion. I was enraged then sad. I never thought Lena could die so early and in such an ugly way. Surprisingly with Sela's murder it had to take the chapter with Vash and Alred for me to understand that she was killed. I remembe being in disbelief because i couldn't believe someone could harm someone as Sela. I've never gotten over that.
Another chapter that had me enraged was when Lili came to Egelric's castle and the chapter that followed. Lili cemented my dislikement for her after that second chapter when she and Egelric were in bed. This was 3 to 4 weeks after the 1st anniversary of Sela's murder. I will always dislike that blond brat.
This story totally affects
Submitted by ermine on Sat, 10/17/2009 - 13:15.This story totally affects me, also to tears, but not really in crying-crying way. I blink my eyes all the time and sniffle. This happens now, when I read chapter right away, and one by one. I think it's more like mix of enthusiasm and fangirlishness, so nothing serious.
But when I had this reading race through the whole story, I usually gobbled all sad chapters. Shock came afterwards, usually in one or two chapters, no matter of subject. Like in this chapter, when all around Peleia has started to fall, I had to stop reading 'cause it felt so bad. I just wanted to sob(and kick Leofric likely). I had been holding tears all the way from Matilda's death.
There is too some examples in my Bookmarks.. examples of my crying, jeh. n__n Oh, I have also "Sigefrith tells the plain truth" and "Alred sees no poetry." I don’t know, in those chapters there were also joy.. ’Truth’ about Cubby’s father and reunion of Matilda. So it was more about confused than really, depressing sad. But if we take another one from my bookmarks, ”Leofric says goodbye”, this is opposite to me. Of course I was happy about love and passion and whatever, but mostly I felt like giving up. On topmost are negative feelings. It’s hard to find any chapter between these two camps, ”neutrally sad”. Maybe one of deaths.. Cenwulf’s! These two chapters were hard to read (”Edris brings a letter” and “Father Brandt finds the reason”), ‘cause sorrow is sneaking. I started to sob in first and in second I was already gone.
Hmph, where are all examples when I need you?
I think I use word “cry” quite easily in my comments, but mostly I mean it. Almost all chapter nowadays have at least one moment, when I have tears in my eyes. But crying tears.. eh, they are two different things. I don’t think I have. :')
Heheh, I did not think
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 10/17/2009 - 16:27.Heheh, I did not think people would be literally sobbing or anything. I meant the "tears in the eyes" feeling. It is not often they actually spill over for me, but the feeling is there.
The chapter where Edris learns about Cenwulf's death is another good one for the list. You start asking questions in the chapter before it, where her steward seems to be steering her towards the priest and making funny faces. And then as Brandt opens the letter and the tension builds and builds... and finally he just tells her the truth, and THE END. Shock, and a sort of empty feeling, and you just stare at Edris's back as she cries in the last photo, and you begin to realize that he's really gone.
I cry pretty easily... I
Submitted by stacysaurus on Sun, 10/18/2009 - 17:17.I cry pretty easily... I can't really remember all the ones that made me have tear drops though. I cried on Dasi's death and also when Sebastian killed himself (I think maybe I was the only one who cried on that one, haha)
Before I start I should
Submitted by Verity on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 14:04.Before I start I should mention that when I say cry I really do mean tears pouring down my cheeks crying. I cry really easily though (that being said it is more TV shows or movies rather than from reading so it is still a skill to get me to cry here). I know there has been at least one occasion of actual sobbing (though not like really over the top... I just mean more than normal crying... like, add the odd gasp in their and a trembling lip I really don't know which chapter it was though. I will have to think about it a bit more.
But crying chapters:
First of all Sigrid hears a call just kills me. Kills me.
Flann enters into the valley is another one, the last few pictures make my heart hurt. I usually think the sims crying poses can be so cheesy but God, they are so moving in the chapter.
I find Pol touches his daughter to be very sniffle inducing too. It is so sad that he was never allowed the time with Ilyaine and that she had to grow up with a distant father when her real father loved her so much all the way along.
Leofric sees the daughter. Hetty's distress always has such a huge effect on me. I think it is because she spends so much time hiding her feelings so as not to bother people so when they come out like this it is doubly upsetting.
Father Brandt finds the reason always brings a tear to my eye. Poor Edris is so excited for the news and then...
Stein is in trouble for certain
I can't remember the name of it but the one were Alwy goes to Egelric and finds that Elfeda has killed herself. That one is so distressing and poignant with Alwy's famous line at the end.
Those are the ones I can think of at the moment. I will keep thinking though.
I recall you being quite
Submitted by Lothere on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 14:09.I recall you being quite upset over the whole Leofric + Alred showdown, when you truly believed Leof had been killed. But I don't remember that was tears or more like fury at Alred....
The Stein chapter is a good one! So sad and then Baby Gamle winks at him. And of course now we know Lili didn't have all that much longer herself. (Plus she was going to be responsible for bringing Sophie and Stein together when they both needed someone.) Dear Fairy Godmother Lili! I hope Stein and Sophie do have a daughter someday, so they can call her Lili. That would be so poetically right.
Ah yes. That was the actual
Submitted by Verity on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 14:20.Ah yes. That was the actual sobbing "noooo" chapter. I could barely even read that one I was so distressed. I am not sure if that one falls more in the heart poundey category. It wasn't really a tearjerker in the vein of the other but I was definitely crying.
"Dear Fairy Godmother Lili!
Submitted by Devin on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 15:59."Dear Fairy Godmother Lili! "
Oh Meryt your such a Lili fan.
The only time I have cried
Submitted by Lisa on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 12:30.The only time I have cried in this story was when Matilda died.