"Alwy was a real big man."
MOAR prologue chapters?
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 11/28/2009 - 09:35.
Yes! I miss the old days!
36% (12 votes)
Every once in a while is OK.
61% (20 votes)
No, they're kind of pointless.
3% (1 vote)
Don't care
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 33
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I really, really enjoy the
Submitted by Nimue on Sat, 11/28/2009 - 10:41.I really, really enjoy the older chapters. They seem to come at great times when the current storylines are getting particularly stressful, so I appreciate them even more. However, I just don't want them to hinder further story progression. How do you feel about writing them? Are they a welcome escape or maybe too bittersweet?
I would have chosen a more
Submitted by François on Sat, 11/28/2009 - 10:42.I would have chosen a more enthusiast one than Every once in a while is OK, but I'm torn between my desire to continue to read the future of the characters and read those beautiful prologue chapters you did. I don't miss the old days, but I definitely like to see those old runts in their young selves !
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I love them they give us a
Submitted by Devin on Sat, 11/28/2009 - 10:43.I love them they give us a much better insight to the characters before the story began in 1067. Plus I enjoy seeing some characters in better graphics, genes, and clothes.
Well, like I said before, I
Submitted by maruutsu on Sat, 11/28/2009 - 11:24.Well, like I said before, I do love the prologue chapters, but I feel they get in the way of the current story. We already had our fun with the founders -- and continue to have it -- but the story's changed since then, hasn't it? I mean, the early chapters were wonderful in their own way, but the new ones are also great and they're the ones that I've been reading lately, the ones that I want to continue reading and the ones that I'm currently invested in.
In other words, I prefer the current direction the story is taking and I'm dying to see it progress, but when we have lots of chapters dedicated to one day or to a single event (which I don't mind in the current storyline, for example), or when we have chapters that aren't related to what's happening "now"... I dunno, it feels like we are taking forever to get the story going. But that's related to the overall pacing of the story, which I think has been discussed before, so...
Anyway, I hope this was somewhat coherent.
OMG, is this Alwy I'm seeing
Submitted by François on Sat, 11/28/2009 - 11:36.OMG, is this Alwy I'm seeing in the banner ???
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I voted for every once in a
Submitted by Van on Sat, 11/28/2009 - 12:16.I voted for every once in a while. I enjoy the prologue chapters--it's good to see all the original characters in their younger years again--but I'm too invested in the current storyline to campaign for say, three or four prologue chapters in a row without anything on the main storyline (not that I think you'd do that). It's been a while since the last one, so I think this is good timing here.
Nimue (and Aelgifu who
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 11/28/2009 - 12:20.Nimue (and Aelgifu who suggested it elsewhere), that's another reason why I wanted to do this chapter now: I thought we needed something fun and light-hearted for a change, and aside from a few brief, comical moments in upcoming dramatic chapters (à la the priestly "Mine is bigger than yours" conversation in the recent Alred meltdown / Malrua shocker chapter), I don't see ANYTHING in January. I'm trying to cut out all the fluff to get the story moving again, but for now the only chance of fun seems to be in the fluff. Or in a well-timed prologue chapter. (Note that "Getting us moving" also means "Getting us to spring and the arrival of The Fabulous Yware," whereupon bounteous floods of tap-dancing, jazz-handing humor are expected to break loose in the valley.)
Also, let's face it: the next Egelric / Finn chapter is going to be really difficult. Given the place we're at in Egelric's life story (and Finn's, for that matter), this chapter has to mark a turning point in their relationship. And furthermore they're both men, which means they can't just talk about their feelings... they have to express everything obliquely in grunts and nods and monosyllabic comments on totally unrelated subjects. Hugely challenging dialog to write. And these are... yes, I have to say... my two FAVORITE male characters right now. I owe them my absolute best writing. So I may be procrastinating a little.
(There's also the 4th Lotherian Anniversary on Sunday, which I have no idea how to celebrate otherwise than by briefly resurrecting Alwy. We'll see if I make it on time.)
Thanks for asking how I feel about these prologue chapters. I probably don't get as much out of them as you Prologue-Chapter-Fans do. Honestly, although I voted "OK once in a while", I am probably more in maruutsu's camp from a storytelling standpoint. We, who have read up to 1086, don't need them, and they only distract me and you from the current storylines. The current storylines are the ones that keep me up at night thinking. The past is behind us. I no longer hear the voices of Alwy and the other dead characters. Devin asks me "What would Elfleda do?" and I have no freakin' clue because Elfleda has been dead for so long that I don't even remember what she was like. I can't explain how my storytelling brain works, but it doesn't waste any time on nostalgia and "What Ifs", I'll say that.
However. I am also writing for people who haven't even discovered this story yet. For those people, the so-called Prologue Chapters are the first thing they're going to read, before they get dumped back into my nearly-four-year-old prose and more-than-four-year-old video card. I don't want to rewrite the whole story from the beginning, but I would like to establish a nice introduction to get people interested in the story and the characters. People who read Sims stories nowadays expect SO MUCH MORE than they did in 2005.
Any sane person would have started a new story by now (probably several) but we're all so attached to these characters that I just keep going with the same. I mean, there is a certain crufty "crazy cat lady" charm to a story with over two million words, 1700 chapters, hundreds of characters, published regularly over the space of four years... but it gets more and more intimidating for a new reader to jump into. You've read enough of my angsty hair-pulling ranting about how I can make this story more approachable and more readable, so I won't go on about that here. But it is one of the reasons why I have been adding these prologue chapters on occasion.
So I guess I will summarize my latest hair-pulling rant as follows.
Why do I write the prologue chapters?
Some reasons why you might think I write them, but which aren't true:
Other than seeing my beloved Matilda again, I don't get much out of this from a nostalgia standpoint. (See above.) Likewise, it's more fun to write NEW chapters with NEW storylines than to revisit the past. And for the third... I'm really trying not to do that. A few mentions of poor dead Leof, yes. Hints of Alred-Sigefrith jealousy, yes. OMG Iylaine's mom planted a magical bomb under the castle that is set to go off on Easter Sunday, 1086? No.
That's why I'm actually a little sorry I got us calling these things "Prologue Chapters". Since (1) I don't like prologues and (2) only the chapter literally titled "Prologue" is intended to work as a prologue. That chapter sets up new readers to expect something that old readers TOTALLY did not get. Namely: OMG ELVES! who knew that Sigefrith and the men were coming!
All of the subsequent, non-prologue "prologue chapters" are intended only to present information we already know in a more story-like format, rather than all those expository introductory chapters that existed in the beginning. That is all.
OK this is definitely looking like procrastinating, so I will try to go write some actual story now. Thanks for your comments, everyone.
I don't think anyone
Submitted by maruutsu on Sat, 11/28/2009 - 13:07.I don't think anyone believed you were writing the "prologue" chapters for those reasons, Jenny. (And LOL at the Deus Ex-machina of Iylaine's mother planting a magical bomb.)
While I understand why people may need light-hearted chapters as a break, I'd much rather they were set in the present. I'm thinking Emmie.
Since angst doesn't bring me down as much as it does to the average person, you probably shouldn't count my opinion on how often you should have these sort of chapters. Plus, I love Finnie-boy too. And I'm dying to read that chapter! But I agree with you, so take as much time as you need.
You're right about Emmie! I
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 11/28/2009 - 13:40.You're right about Emmie! I forgot I have a potentially amusing (in an awkward, squirmy way) chapter with Emmie that's standing firm for January.
I should do another poll about the angst I think. I don't know how many back-to-back drama chapters people like to read. Except for Cubby's run-in with Gwynn the Wild Sow, there hasn't been much humor around here in... ages. To be honest, it probably wears ME down more than it does you guys. After writing a chapter like "Twilight's End" I feel wrung-out like an old dish towel. And after getting into Ris's head for a week, I feel like I need therapy myself.