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Answers to random questions Devin has
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 03/01/2008 - 16:10.
1. How many servants does Egelric have?
As a matter of fact I recently spent a morning putting together a spreadsheet to track Lotherian demographics. Version 1.0 says that there are 45 hardy souls currently living at Sceadwung-Clif, aside from characters we know. So... maybe 1/3 in the castle and the rest on the land? Though I would guess that some of the family members of farmers would have jobs in the castle. Probably a step up for a pig farmer's daughter to be a housekeeper in a castle. Ample guard-flirting opportunities, if nothing else.
Also, interestingly enough, currently residing at Sceadwung-Clif there are also a shoemaker, a scabbardmaker (WTF? surely they make something else besides scabbards all day...), a tiler (not Anna's father), and a roofer. Hmm!
2. Will we ever see any of his tenants?
Well if this story goes on forever, the probability approaches one. I do not currently have any plans to that end. You may have noticed I don't do much with the lower classes. I have that Historical Romance Writer addiction to dukes and earls and lords.
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When Lady Sela was taken to the Khirron was put into the harem or a prison?
As forest trash she wouldn't
Submitted by Lothere on Sun, 04/05/2009 - 14:37.As forest trash she wouldn't have been taken to the "harem," Devin. All the girls in the Great Hall have good blood and gracious manners, and can sing and dance and play music and so on. They've been raised all their lives for that purpose.
She must have been imprisoned somewhere, but I don't know where or in what sort of conditions.
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Are the Harem girls allowed to roam outside of the harem or they're just stuck in there?
There isn't a "harem
Submitted by Lothere on Sun, 04/05/2009 - 15:12.There isn't a "harem compound" per se, Devin. There's the Great Hall where they are expected to hang out during the day, but it's an open area, and other elves go through it on their way to other places.
They are mostly stuck within the larger compound, however, though that's true for almost all of the elves except for the noble males, and the noble females to some extent. However those privileges mostly vanished for the ladies after Hel started killing them, and out of fear of rebels now too, since Lar's band has become bold and taken to kidnap and so forth.
In "Lena walks out" I wrote:
So Lena had sometimes been outside of the court and into the forest. But that was a "special privilege" and she had a "special companion" if you catch my drift. Most of the half-blood girls have been out only a few times in their lives, in a big group led by older ladies, on "field trips" of sorts to gather flowers or whatever.
At least, that's my take on it at this time. Now that Lena's dead I don't know when we'll get a chance to learn more.
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What about Nina?
We probably won't see Nina
Submitted by Lothere on Sun, 04/05/2009 - 15:50.We probably won't see Nina until March. I moved all that stuff out of December in an attempt to get things moving again.
But Saturday night is still Aia Night, don't worry. Lar sent Llen on a collision course with Aia (and promptly forgot all about it). I can't let that one just fall off the radar screen.
I Want Maire Dead before
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Do you expect to have those chapters out in a couple of weeks or next month?
And when is Lena's funeral?
Uh, well... *shuffles
Submitted by Lothere on Sun, 04/05/2009 - 16:07.Uh, well... *shuffles papers*
I currently have 8 chapters between hin and yon, so even if I miraculously managed to do one every two days, that's still over two weeks out. Sorry about that. Gwynn and Finn and Connie and Old Man fans shall be happy though. (Not necessarily in that order or in those combinations.)
Good to see you're getting wary about getting your hopes up though.
I Want Maire Dead before
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Lena's murder has crushed my optimism at least for awhile.
Oh, and more Gywnn...
What?!? MOAR GWYNN!!!
Submitted by Tiffany on Sun, 04/05/2009 - 17:10.What?!?
MOAR GWYNN!!!
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I hope Aia can defend herself.
Speaking of Aia, if anyone's
Submitted by Sam on Sun, 04/05/2009 - 19:57.Speaking of Aia, if anyone's interested, I found her hair here: http://www.raonsims.com/item/detail.php?num=168&cat1=1&page=4&key= I remembered people were looking for it a whle back, and I really wanted to find it, so after a little searching....there it is. I think the conversation was actually focused on Derbail's hair, but I think they're the same.
Yaaaaay, nothing spells "fun
Submitted by PenelopetheFox on Mon, 04/06/2009 - 16:33.Yaaaaay, nothing spells "fun times" like O-L-D M-A-N!
Yaaay! Old man!
Submitted by Sofie on Tue, 04/07/2009 - 00:55.Yaaay! Old man!
With all the sad stuff
Submitted by Van on Tue, 04/07/2009 - 09:07.With all the sad stuff happening, it'll be great to see the Old Man
I think out of all the original couples, Alred and Matilda managed to produce the most awesome group of offspring. In my opinion, that is
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I find Sigefrith and dear Maud's children much more intriguing.
Britamund's pretty cool. I
Submitted by Van on Tue, 04/07/2009 - 19:07.Britamund's pretty cool. I don't quite have an opinion on Emma yet, but she seems okay.
It seems all my favorite characters are the ones you don't like. Sorry, Devin
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Is there ever going to be a chapter that takes place in Egelric's chapel?
I do not have any plans to
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 04/13/2009 - 10:46.I do not have any plans to that effect at the present time. Egelric is not the most God-fearing man himself, and anyway who knows where he will be or who will be living there in the future?
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If Egelric is forced out of the castle what will happen to Lili's remains?
It would not be uncommon for
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 04/13/2009 - 11:12.It would not be uncommon for old remains to be disinterred and reburied in a churchyard or in a different location in this or some other chapel.
I don't think anyone would do it "just because" though. It would happen if the new owner wanted to use the tomb, or if they wanted to rebuild the chapel. Nobody has any ill-will against Lili and I doubt she would be moved any time soon.
I suppose maybe if Egelric was gone forever, maybe one day Hetty would want Lili's body brought back to Nothelm to be buried near her own, rather than in a chapel filled by the dead of a new family. But that is really far-off speculation right now.
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Oh wow Aia and Sela are second cousins to Lena! And also with Iylaine...
Meryt Sela's paternal great-great grandmother Talana was Laiton while her partner Tuhi is ksalton a kisor. How was that possible was he killed for having a relationship with a Khirron lady?
I don't know what was the
Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 04/23/2009 - 15:40.I don't know what was the story about Talana and her husband. It doesn't look like he got killed for it though, since he lived till their kids were adult. Maybe there just weren't enough males to go around? Maybe he got special treatment because he was the Khór's son? It was over 100 years ago, so maybe the rules were just more lax then?
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Meryt where is Hilda and Alwy buried?
Gosh Devin do you think I
Submitted by Lothere on Wed, 04/29/2009 - 19:39.Gosh Devin do you think I document EVERYTHING?
I don't know... I don't think Sigefrith's chapel has space for burials inside, so Hilda is probably buried outside the manor house in some sort of family burial ground. Little Siggy must be there too.
As for Alwy, either outside of Saint Margaret's within the outer walls of the keep, or possibly outside of Saint Kentigern's Chapel below, or at some other place. But knowing Alred I would suppose he got in near Saint Margaret's.
Nobody has been buried outside of the old church since it "erupted", although many of the original graves are still in place. Some notable exceptions are Maud's and Harold's.
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Meryt are we going to see Cat and Paul anytime soon?
Not any time soon -- not
Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 04/30/2009 - 13:21.Not any time soon -- not according to my current plans anyway.
That's probably a good sign
Submitted by Tiffany on Thu, 04/30/2009 - 13:34.That's probably a good sign considering Lothere's track record with sudden death.
Indeed. KEEP THEM LOCKED
Submitted by Cassie on Thu, 04/30/2009 - 17:02.Indeed. KEEP THEM LOCKED AWAY PLS.
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I'm romantic, literary, cynical, and a diehard Alred Sebright groupie.
True, true. But I do have a
Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 04/30/2009 - 17:18.True, true. But I do have a thing for sudden, surprising, unseen deaths. (Cenwulf and Alwy come to mind...)
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With the introductions of these new characters in 1086 will you still show Cecily when its time for her to give birth to her and Caedwulf's child?
I still plan on doing at
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 05/04/2009 - 11:26.I still plan on doing at least 2 chapters with Cecily next year. Caedwulf's little one-morning stand may have international consequences. At the very least, it will have an effect on him.
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While he is away, who watches over Young Aed's lands?
I don't know... he has the
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 05/04/2009 - 15:38.I don't know... he has the same panoply of stewards and caretakers and knight-like personages as Sigefrith, just on a smaller scale. It's not like he can't leave the place for a few weeks.
However, it's true that there is a breathtaking lack of male heirs in the family. (And interesting for me to observe, since the whole family was randomly created.) Young Aed may be in a hurry to get married and have kids just so he can go out and make war without worrying that his little domain will be fought over and split up between third cousins of half-aunts of his great-grandfather. He needs some strong sons.
Also he's in a kind of creepy situation with some of the other lords -- namely Eochaid and Lulach, both of whom we just saw -- because Eochaid's mother was first married to the man who should have been ruler in Young Aed's place (his elder half-brother), and because Lulach is married to Aed's own mother. (Young Aed and his mom do not get along well, and Aed and Lulach not at all.) So there are two widows with agendas right there.
Incidentally, this is why his two best buddies aren't even from his own clan. There just aren't any young men of his age and rank around.
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He needs a strong woman to give him strong children. If he ends up with Connie it will be an absolute waste.
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Meryt is Aia's disability still proving to be a challenge for you?
Well yeah. Just in that I
Submitted by Lothere on Fri, 05/08/2009 - 08:57.Well yeah. Just in that I don't know of any way to twist her Sim's back all around and warp her foot. I can make her do the zombie walk and make her slouch when she stands like a lazy Sim, but that's all I can do. So I guess I will have to work extra hard to make you "see" her as crooked even though her Sim appears to be standing straight.
Otherwise I don't think I will have a hard time writing her. She's mentally fit and can see and hear and talk just fine. (At least in her own language). Malo is far more difficult because he can't talk.
Paul wasn't too hard either... the hardest part with Paul wasn't his blindness but rather that annoying rule I had that said he couldn't be called "Kiv" but had to be "the elf" all the time. Holy cow that drove me up the wall after a while.
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Well I hope her dissability won't make child bearing difficult for her.
When are we going to see Egelric & co?
I hope so too Devin! I
Submitted by Lothere on Fri, 05/08/2009 - 09:16.I hope so too Devin! I half-glimpsed a story on the news last night about a woman who was supposedly told she couldn't have kids because she had scoliosis, but then she went and had twins. So just this morning I looked up "scoliosis and pregnancy" and in a 2-minute google search I decided it would be possible for Aia to have kids. She will probably have a harder time caring for them once they're born than carrying them, just because she has such a hard time getting around.
We will see Egelric on Sunday. I don't know who you mean by "& co." If you mean his younger kids (besides Finn I mean) then I don't know. Maybe Christmas? Will Christmas ever come?
I Want Maire Dead before
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Is Egelric really going to celebrate christmas? Oh, I just realized Lady Sela's anniversary is coming up..
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And if Aia is managing well with Wendle she will do the same with her other children.
But don't forget the
Submitted by Tiffany on Fri, 05/08/2009 - 17:12.But don't forget the pregnancy and early infancy years. I hear pregnancy is killer on the back.
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Yes it would be bad for her back.. Maybe she'll give giver birth to two babies like Iylaine.
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So who do you think loved Egelric the most: Elfleda, Sela, Gunnie, or Lili?
Didn't you already ask me
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 05/09/2009 - 14:54.Didn't you already ask me that, Devin?
I vote for E) All of the above.
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You forget where you download the clothes and objects but you remember some of my questions?!
Anyway I was hoping you would change your answer ..
There are lots of sites
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 05/09/2009 - 15:39.There are lots of sites where you can download clothes, but there is only one Devin.
However if I ever did change my answer I doubt it would be to vote for Sela. I think the closest Egelric has ever come to conjugal bliss is his time with Lili.
But if you ask me, the best Egelric of all was the one who lived alone with Iylaine in the time after Elfleda's death -- "just you and I" as Iylaine later lamented -- for such a brief time. I loved the Egelric who used to make her breakfast and give her baths, who used to sit with her by the fire in the evenings, and brush her hair and tell her stories, and tuck her into bed beside him, whereupon she would thrash and kick him all the night through. How different things would have been if Alred and Sigefrith had just let him be that man.
As I wrote in "Egelric has a late visitor":
I Want Maire Dead before
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I will never accept Lili-Willy as Egelric's beloved wife.. He became smug and full; of himself while he was married to her. Though Egelric with Iylaine being the single dad was great while it lasted.
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What did Lili have that Sela didn't?
Anything negative that
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 05/09/2009 - 16:16.Anything negative that Egelric "became" while married to Lili is not necessarily Lili's fault, Devin. Simply because it happened at the same time.
I think the bigger influence on Egelric's increasing dickishness during that time period was Alred. Egelric has always resisted Alred's attempts to elevate him, and once he found himself firmly ensconced in that castle with that faintly noble wife, his best opportunity at resistance was to be a frat-boy-like jerk at times -- for example, with that trick he played on Ethelwyn when he had Alred invite Mouse to the party.
Overall he was quite content with Lili and his kids out there. When it was just him at home with his family, he was fine. It's just that with Alred, he has always had something to prove... always had to get in the last word, so to speak.
Nevertheless they're surely each other's best friend! *sigh*
As for Lili versus Sela, I am going to have to once again refuse to answer that question. Egelric couldn't answer it, so how could I? All I can say is that with Sela there was a lot of guilt and things left unsaid. Egelric was able to be really open and free with Lili. With Lili, Egelric really had FUN with his wife in a way I don't think he ever had with any other woman. Deep down inside of Egelric there is that orphaned eight year old still missing his playful, affectionate father, and Lili more than any one really allowed that boy to come out and play.
That's one of the things I like about having Fergus around... with his big laughter and his desire to hug everyone, he seems like what Egelric might have been if the first twenty-five years of his life had never happened. Of course, Fergus's body is being piloted by Araphel, who has Issues of his own, with a capital I, but even he can hardly resist the urge to hug.
Anyway I am getting really off-topic here... *scurries off again to write some more*
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There should be a pout smiley..
I thought Iylaine's mother
Submitted by Sofie on Tue, 05/12/2009 - 10:11.Hmm.. I'm still wondering what this is about.
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My lips are sealed on this subject for the time being.
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Meryt have you wondered how Malcolm will take the news of Maire and Egelric?
And has he ever met Young Aed and Lady Sela.
What Malcolm thinks is on my
Submitted by Lothere on Wed, 05/13/2009 - 12:57.What Malcolm thinks is on my mind a lot these days.
I don't know whether he ever met Sela. Unless someone finds proof to the contrary I'm going to say not. I'm not sure he ever had the chance, considering how rarely he ever came into the valley for a while.
He has met Young Aed. So far I think Young Aed has been more impressed by Malcolm than the contrary.
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Yes we hardly saw Malcolm in the valley when she was married to Egelric. I thought Malcolm would be impressed with Young Aed since. Sine Aed has accomplished a lot despiye his young age. Maybe Malcolm's jealous.
Young Aed could also be a
Submitted by Lothere on Wed, 05/13/2009 - 13:09.Young Aed could also be a flash in the pan. Or perhaps Malcolm sees through him to some lack that others don't see, or that doesn't justify the success he's had in his young life.
I wouldn't underestimate Malcolm's abilities to size people up. If he lacked that skill he would be dead by now. But I also won't deny that there could be some element of "Prove it, kid" in his opinion so far. I wouldn't underestimate Malcolm's arrogance either.
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Is Finn adjusting to the fact that he has two little kisor half- brothers? I know he found it odd how Paul and Osh were playing with Penedict . It must be a lot for him to digest that after his mother's suicide his father married a kisor elf and had two children with her. I would really like to see a post from Finn's pov with him interacting with Wulf and Gils.
Finn doesn't see Wulf and
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 05/23/2009 - 06:53.Finn doesn't see Wulf and Gils much at all.
He's in a nice situation from the perspective of a 14-year-old boy: he doesn't really have a home -- as long as someone knows where he is, he pretty much comes and goes as he pleases. (Whether that's actually good for a 14-year-old boy is another matter... I suspect it will make him feel lonely after a while.)
And a lot of his coming and going is organized around avoiding the possibility of being obliged to sleep in the same building as his father (and father's family). Finn is still a lot like a feral dog where his father is concerned... he will sometimes creep close to his side, but as soon as a hand is raised to caress him, or -- heaven forbid -- someone makes to lock him inside, he takes off. Figuratively speaking.
Egelric does hold a lot of fascination for him of course. It's always Finn who comes creeping back after a while. But their relationship is both delicate and awkward. And that was before the whole adultery-if-not-rape-if-not-worse situation blew up in the middle of everything.
As for his siblings... a 14-year-old boy who has grown up an only child is going to feel awkward enough around 6-year-olds and 2-year-olds as it is. The fact that they're who they are only makes it worse. Wulf is all hyper and outgoing and proud to be an elf, all of which makes Finn cringe. And Gils is Lar's son, and Finn thinks nobody knows, and he's only a foster child anyway. Out of them all, the one he likes best is probably Jehanne, who is at an age where all she really needs is someone to watch her play and fetch her stuff from on high, and who doesn't ask him questions he's not allowed to answer.
Finn would be a lot happier to be able to get to know Egelric alone without the family. Assuming Egelric lives long enough that Finn won't be stuck with some kind of responsibility for his young siblings, it's quite possible that Finn will never be all that close to them. He's almost a grown man, and already sort of living on his own.
It's not so much because of snobbery and racism though. (Even with Iylaine it isn't... she's jealous that they get the life with their father that she always wished she could have, and she just manifests that with racial snobbery.) With Finn the issue is much more a case of an adopted child finding his birth family, and learning that there are these kids who got love and attention from their father, while Finn spent 14 years thinking he was thrown away like the trash. (He also has loyalty to his mother, and if he had a choice in the matter would have preferred that Egelric simply didn't have another wife ever again.)
Even now that he intellectually knows the truth, he has these ingrained feelings of inferiority and abandonment that aren't going to go away soon. I suppose there's a sort of jealousy in him as well -- he's hungry for his father, but when he finally finds him, he has to share. And Egelric tries to make sure the other kids know that they still matter to him. So that's how that goes.
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I think that would be the worst thing for Finn if Egelric were and he had to take care of his siblings.. I have to agree I don't think Finn will ever be that close to Wulf or Gils but I do think he will be with Jehanne.
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Now as much as I dread to see a fourth Mrs. Egelric Wodehead those poor children need a step-mother since Lady Sela was killed in such senseless manner. Oh yeah and since Lili's gone too. Anyway here are my picks.
*Martha ingen Diarmait Ui Cheinnselaigh
Finna Gamlesdottor
Gunnora Aelfdensdottor Hingwar
Hmmm... yeah, I could live
Submitted by Van on Sat, 05/23/2009 - 16:38.Hmmm... yeah, I could live with Egelric marrying any of those women, if the plan is to let him continue on with life normally after a while. Of those three, I'd probably vote for Martha just because a) she's probably had a pretty sucky life since Godwine got married and ventured off, taking her children with him and b) she has the same birthday as my kid brother, and obviously that's an incredibly important aspect of a character
Of course, I have another (likely shared) idea of a potential spouse for Egelric, but I can't see it happening at this point in the story, so I just won't get my hopes up there.
Stein's SISTER??? *head
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 05/23/2009 - 16:48.Stein's SISTER??? *head spins around*
Who else are you thinking of Van?
I think someone has a crush on Egelric already. *sigh*
Heheh... I think everyone
Submitted by Van on Sat, 05/23/2009 - 16:59.Heheh... I think everyone knows who I'm thinking of, and everyone knows equally well that it's not going to happen.
If I knew, would I ask? It
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 05/23/2009 - 17:01.If I knew, would I ask? It must be so self-evidently impossible that I can't figure it out.
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Gunnilda is already married. If thats the person your thinking of.
And what's wrong with Stein's sister she's got no husband and no kids just like Gunnora.
The delicate, silver-haired
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 05/23/2009 - 17:36.The delicate, silver-haired great-granddaughter of Norse kings and the swarthy, truncheon-fisted son of an English peasant? *rubs chin*
There's nothing particularly wrong with those women, Devin, it's just so RANDOM. The odds of Martha and Egelric even meeting once on this earth is pretty close to 0. Not one of those three women you proposed even speaks English particularly well -- Martha and Finna not at all.
Of course Irene is all those things. But she does have the advantage of BEING THERE.
I do think Egelric + Gunnilda would be quite something. Soooo much ground to go over. It would probably be bittersweet though, in many ways.
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Doesen't Martha speak Gaelic? And right now Meryt no elegible woman would dare to marry Egelric after the stunt that skank Maire pulled. I'm choosing women who have never been to Lothere and I am very curious about this Martha sister of the Great Orlaith.
And Egelric was very delicate with Lady Sela he would treat Stein's sister right. Of course these women could never measure up to Sela but they would make great step-mother's to the children.
True, Martha speaks Gaelic.
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 05/23/2009 - 19:04.True, Martha speaks Gaelic. Egelric speaks Gaelic like a five-year-old, however, at least according to his son-in-law. Unless he's railing at you -- then he's a dictionary.
I still have a hard time imagining Egelric with a truly delicate lady. Remember how brutish and awkward he felt with Irene? Lili was small, but she was a rambunctious little lady.
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WOW Egelric has appeared in 332 chapters while Lili has appeared in 52, Elfleda 36 and Sela only appeared in 16 chapters.
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Meryt do you think is possible for Sigefrith to win back Hwaelnaess? And if he does what will he do with it?
The only way Sigefrith is
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 05/30/2009 - 10:01.The only way Sigefrith is ever going to get Hwaelnaess back is if the Normans leave England and thoroughly abandon their attempts to reclaim it. Hwaelnaess is not part of the Danelaw, and it is literally directly across the Channel from Normandy. And even then it would require whoever wins England to give Hwaelnaess back to him, rather than to some friend of his own. If it's the King of Danes it might work out, since they're cousins and all. But if it's the King of Norway, for example, I wouldn't count on it. Even the Aetheling might have other thoughts, since Harold never supported the Aetheling (for obvious reasons, since Harold, uh, wanted to be king), and Sigefrith was tight with Harold. On the other hand Sigefrith did fight on the Aetheling's side on several occasions, so who knows.
I think I recently talked about what he might do with it. Assuming he was able to keep both Lothere and Hwaelnaess I suspect he would stay in Lothere and send one of his sons to Hwaelnaess. Caedwulf, perhaps, or Drage if he's old enough.
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Meryt has Ralf ever had relations?
If he did, he probably cried
Submitted by Tiffany on Tue, 06/02/2009 - 08:32.If he did, he probably cried afterwards.
How quaintly put,
Submitted by Lothere on Tue, 06/02/2009 - 08:35.How quaintly put, Devin.
Yes, he has. We had one chapter where Ethelwyn was reminiscing about how he used to help Ralf pick up girls, back in his own bachelor days. It's safe to say Ralf wasn't just taking them out for dinner and a movie.
Nevertheless Ralf is something of a romantic. I don't think he stood much risk of falling in love with That Sort of Girl. He probably has something of his housekeeper's opinion in that regard... it's just that he didn't put Flann into that class, while his housekeeper did.
I have to say, I can't imagine what Ralf is like in bed though...
I still say he's a crier.
Submitted by Tiffany on Tue, 06/02/2009 - 08:37.I still say he's a crier.
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Aia could be his magical nymph.
I so agree Tiffany he must be a crier.
I don't get it, what would
Submitted by Lothere on Tue, 06/02/2009 - 08:40.I don't get it, what would he be crying about?
At the sheer beauty of
Submitted by Tiffany on Tue, 06/02/2009 - 08:45.At the sheer beauty of love-making, I guess.
I'm still a virgin so I don't exactly know the dynamics and emotional aspects of "relations", but from TV, I gathered that some men are often "moved to tears" after a particularly sweet or passionate love-making session.
Interesting... I don't think
Submitted by Lothere on Tue, 06/02/2009 - 08:53.Interesting...
I don't think you would get that without being deeply in love though. Especially for a man. I think men are more readily able to have sex without requiring it to mean anything. Men are perfectly capable of crying if they are sufficiently moved, but there isn't much poignant beauty in sex unless there's love involved. My take.
I thought you might mean he would cry out of guilt or feeling dirty about it or something. But that didn't seem like Ralf either.
Heh, I can definitely see
Submitted by Cassie on Tue, 06/02/2009 - 09:06.Heh, I can definitely see Ralf as a crier. More out of the "awkwardness" of the situation or of fear that he did it wrong, or just being overwhelmed or some such...
Poor Ralf. "I'M NO GOOD AT THIS WHAT IS WRONG WITH MEEEE?"
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But see, I took Ralf as the
Submitted by Tiffany on Tue, 06/02/2009 - 09:07.But see, I took Ralf as the type of person to get his emotions involved and get all wrapped up in it, even if it was a scullery maid.
Crying out of guilt? Nah, he'd probably write a poem about it.
OMG, that is so DUNSTAN!
I don't know, I think as a
Submitted by Lothere on Tue, 06/02/2009 - 09:59.I don't know, I think as a general rule in his life, Ralf is OK once he gets going. He's an introvert, and probably lives too much in his head, but he's not really timid or insecure.
If Ralf cried about anything, I would imagine it more like once he gets home after one of these little escapades... crawling under the covers while trying not to wake any of the cats sleeping on his bed, and then maybe crying a tear or two as he wonders why he still hasn't found and brought home the girl of his dreams, so he can have something REAL.
There are certainly intimations of that in his revelation about his little reveries of Flann sitting quietly in his hall with Liadan toddling around at her feet and a new Ralf-like baby on her lap.
He does want to get married, but he's certainly not going to go for the first girl who comes along. He has very strict and somewhat ridiculously romantic ideals. But he also has a wonderful heart, and he's just silly enough to be utterly endearing. *cuddles Ralf again*
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After careful review and consideration I have eliminated and left only two candidates for perspective husbands for my lost lamb Aia.
* Star means best choice.
1. *Ralf- He's romantic, sensitive and a loving guy. He could love and make Aia feel beautiful. He's also older and can take care of her.
2. Oswald - Sensitive un-worldly but a nice who would make an excellent father. (Though I think he and Matilda would make a better couple. HINT)
Now take this into consideration Meryt, I shall support you on whatever descision you make.
Thank you for your support,
Submitted by Lothere on Wed, 06/03/2009 - 16:46.Thank you for your support, Devin. I think I will manage to make you at least a little happy.
But what about Eadred?
Or OOOOH what about Saeward?
Actually... Saeward/Aia
Submitted by Van on Wed, 06/03/2009 - 17:13.Actually... Saeward/Aia might be pretty awesome. They would have the most interesting children ever. Soooo many things you could do with that pairing and their offspring...
Saeward and Aia would be a
Submitted by Lothere on Wed, 06/03/2009 - 18:21.Saeward and Aia would be a good couple actually... there's something a bit "off" with both of them. Their kids would probably grow up to be lunatics though, with those parents.
*still waiting to see what is actually up with Saeward...*
Hmmmm Saeward and
Submitted by Cassie on Wed, 06/03/2009 - 20:37.Hmmmm Saeward and Aia...
There is definitely something "odd" about both of them. Seems to be something of a trend lately 'round these parts.
Aia + Aelfden?
(All about the Aelfden these days...)
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Does Saeward have a nice house? I would rather see her with Eadred than him. But my top choice right now is Ralf.
And I thought Saeward was gay or bisexual. I don't want Aia married to a man who will sometimes crave mangina.
Cassie, Crack Pairings
Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 04:23.Cassie, Crack Pairings thread is over there. *points* Aelfden still has a little, quiet crush on Flann anyway.
Devin, now that you mention it, I don't picture Saeward with a house yet. He's only been here a month or two. He probably just has a room at the castle. Of course, like Eadred, he would probably get a house before he went about getting married.
And I never said he was gay! That's part of the mystery. On the contrary I expect he's tends more towards being straight. Only sleeps with female corpses, you know.