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Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 03/01/2008 - 16:10.
1. How many servants does Egelric have?
As a matter of fact I recently spent a morning putting together a spreadsheet to track Lotherian demographics. Version 1.0 says that there are 45 hardy souls currently living at Sceadwung-Clif, aside from characters we know. So... maybe 1/3 in the castle and the rest on the land? Though I would guess that some of the family members of farmers would have jobs in the castle. Probably a step up for a pig farmer's daughter to be a housekeeper in a castle. Ample guard-flirting opportunities, if nothing else.
Also, interestingly enough, currently residing at Sceadwung-Clif there are also a shoemaker, a scabbardmaker (WTF? surely they make something else besides scabbards all day...), a tiler (not Anna's father), and a roofer. Hmm!
2. Will we ever see any of his tenants?
Well if this story goes on forever, the probability approaches one. I do not currently have any plans to that end. You may have noticed I don't do much with the lower classes. I have that Historical Romance Writer addiction to dukes and earls and lords.
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Really, what chapter was
Submitted by Devin on Mon, 08/10/2009 - 04:55.Really, what chapter was that? I wonder how the boys will manage to sneak out. They're going to be even more interesting when they become teenagers.
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Well, she didn't make it ALL
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 08/10/2009 - 05:00.Well, she didn't make it ALL the way alone. Vash helped her for the last few miles. But close.
I just hope the Khirron
Submitted by Devin on Mon, 08/10/2009 - 08:33.I just hope the Khirron don't ever find out about Aia being pregnant and living with the men. Would they might kill the baby if its a boys Meryt?
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I certainly don't see why
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 08/10/2009 - 08:40.I certainly don't see why they would let it live when they don't let the others live.
Oh boy, Shus and Dara are
Submitted by Devin on Mon, 08/10/2009 - 08:47.Oh boy, Shus and Dara are having a baby. How could they be certain its going to be a girl?
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Did I ever say they were
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 08/10/2009 - 08:48.Did I ever say they were certain they were having a girl?
Wait not Shus and Dara, but
Submitted by Devin on Mon, 08/10/2009 - 08:52.Wait not Shus and Dara, but Madra and Ris are trying to have a girl. Aren't elven births random when two of its parents are elves?
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Apparently not. They must
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 08/10/2009 - 08:59.Apparently not. They must have some way of influencing the gender and nature of the child, but I don't know what.
Meryt do the Khirron have
Submitted by Devin on Wed, 08/12/2009 - 12:24.Meryt do the Khirron have spies keeping tabs on the men? Its only a matter of time before they find out about Aia.
And whats happening with Githa?
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I'm sure they know she's
Submitted by Lothere on Wed, 08/12/2009 - 12:30.I'm sure they know she's there. They have not tended to meddle with the affairs of men much, but you know what they did to Sela.
As for Githa, if I haven't written about her it's a sign that nothing has changed there.
I'm very scared for her, she
Submitted by Devin on Wed, 08/12/2009 - 12:34.I'm very scared for her, she has no one. I doubt if she was kidnapped by the Khirron Vash would help her. But all of this will make for one hell of a story.
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After reading Part 3 The
Submitted by Devin on Wed, 08/19/2009 - 15:07.After reading Part 3 The Wolf, I realized I was wrong to say that Lady Sela died for nothing. Regardless if she and Egelric were to encounter some problems in their relationship had she lived. At the time of her murder she and Egelric were very much in love and that is what truly matters. Sela died a noble death in my opinion, she lost so much and knew she would lose her life if she stayed with him but Sela did anyway.
I wonder how many people would actually marry someone knowing that being with that person could put their lives in danger......
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Meryt have you ever wondered
Submitted by Devin on Wed, 08/19/2009 - 15:23.Meryt have you ever wondered how Lili would have acted if she found out about leofric and Hetty?
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That is kind of a trick
Submitted by Lothere on Wed, 08/19/2009 - 16:19.That is kind of a trick question Devin. I don't think there would have been a Leofric+Hetty if Lili hadn't died. Even if Hetty had learned about the poem another way, and her relationship with Alred had been spoiled some other way, Hetty would have turned to Lili for help and comfort. Not to Leofric. She and Lili were very close.
But if if if.... Well, Lili always did stand by Hetty, and she was quite impulsive and sometimes not very wise nor very respectful of proprieties. So if if if all that happened, she might have helped Hetty have an affair. But it's hard for me to imagine how we ever could have gotten into that situation.
Meryt what do the Temple
Submitted by Devin on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 07:02.Meryt what do the Temple people do? We know what services the Harem and servant girls perform but what about the Temple elves? And is the Sikhon magic just as powerful as the Khirron and Laitons?
Vash has a nephew El who is Laiton but lives with his mother in the Temple. Is his situation/future similar to that of Dru's laiton daughters?
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I don't really know, Devin.
Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 07:08.I don't really know, Devin. I don't plan everything ahead of time. All I know is that they sing. And apparently from what Lena said there are gongs involved.
The elves' magic is based on the purity of their blood, so generally if you are síkhón you won't have as much because you have mixed ancestry. But due to the way the caste system works there are a few síkhón elves who have better blood than a few of the laítón. However, the other issue is how much they have been trained to use it.
As for El, didn't I talk
Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 07:37.As for El, didn't I talk about him before? I'm always afraid of contradicting myself... even if I'm perfectly within my rights to do so.
I suppose he will grow up and get married and have an ordinary elven life someday. I don't think he will have a special role as Sorin's grandson. Dru's girls will probably be better off in some respects, since he has been a daddy to them. Whereas I don't think El was even ever supposed to happen. In any case he is not currently betrothed to anyone, as many or all of the truly noble elves are.
It just seems odd that he's
Submitted by Devin on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 07:57.It just seems odd that he's living in the Temple since he is Laiton.. I'm intrigued by him, Nina and that Ru kid. You did hint that Ru might be having an affair with the elf Lasima....
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I don't think I hinted that.
Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 11:07.I don't think I hinted that. If they were actually having an affair I doubt they would have simply put the boy in a separate room. Only that they might have put him in a separate room to avoid any appearance or potential of that.
El's presence in the temple is most likely due to his illegitimacy. He doesn't have a nuclear family to grow up in. But I don't know that it will "taint him" when it comes time for him to marry. I'm sure someone like Lasrua would turn up her nose at him, but she's khírrón.
If Maud was sane and alive
Submitted by Devin on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 08:00.If Maud was sane and alive and if Cubby does develop a preference for men how would she feel about that?
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*cries* Can we go back to
Submitted by Lothere on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 08:10.*cries* Can we go back to asking questions about people who have not been dead for 10 years and who are in their right mind, involving situations that stand a reasonable chance of actually occurring in the reasonably near future or might conceivably have happened in a not-too-distant alternative past? Such as: "What if Cubby develops a preference for men, what would Magog think about that?" (And what would Cedric think about that? *snicker*)
Because Maud's reaction to
Submitted by Devin on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 08:15.Because Maud's reaction to Cubby being gay would have been so interesting... Ok what about Sigefrith how would he handle it? Do you think Cubby and Bedwig might make a good couple the kid has his own house...
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But Maud is dead and crazy
Submitted by Lothere on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 08:21.But Maud is dead and crazy anyway... so if I answered the question it would not actually be about Maud.
Sorry but I don't think Cubby and anyone would make a "good couple". This is 1085. Nobody and I mean nobody is going to be supportive of that. It may even be considered a crime, depending on the kingdom and the king. It would be an interesting storyline, and I will surely do something along those lines one of these days (not necessarily about Cubby -- he's only 12, so it's not at all evident yet that he's gay) but I guarantee it will be heart-rending. No happy endings on those horizons.
Maud still lives on through
Submitted by Devin on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 08:29.Maud still lives on through her children... Speaking of Malcolm when will he be returning to the valley?
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Now that's a scary thought.
Submitted by Lothere on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 08:32.Now that's a scary thought. Hopefully Maud doesn't live on too much in too many of her children.
I can't tell you when Malcolm is coming back. It's a SURPRISE!
Meryt was Vash and Sela
Submitted by Devin on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 09:16.Meryt was Vash and Sela aware of Wulf's magic? Will his abilities prove to be important later on?
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I would assume Vash was. I
Submitted by Lothere on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 09:24.I would assume Vash was. I don't know how much elves like Sela are aware of "magic" -- it's not even a part of their cultural tradition. And at this point Wulf himself isn't aware of any magic he may or may not have. He only knows how to make his brother pee his pants and throw up, and generally just have some influence on moving watery things around.
But regardless, Gils has a lot more magic than Wulf. And I expect that his magic -- and he as a character -- will have a bigger role to play in this story than Wulf ever will. (Especially since Wulf's face will probably only get more painful to look at as time goes on. ) At the present time (and I admit, it is too early to say) I don't have any big plans for any of Egelric's kids besides Finn and Gils. (And of course Iylaine, who is already a MAIN character.)
Can't you fix up Wulf's face
Submitted by Devin on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 09:43.Can't you fix up Wulf's face like make his jaw a bit smaller.. He was a cute baby I thought he'd look more like Sela. I shudder to think if Egelric and Sela had a girl what would she look like..
Gils worries me a lot. I don't think he's going to have a happy life... I hope Kia and Hila re-appear when the boys are teenagers.
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I probably will fix up Wulf
Submitted by Lothere on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 10:40.I probably will fix up Wulf a little if he comes out looking frankly inhuman. (I think I already did, actually.) But I won't make him handsome. Some kids are just homely. Finn got all the pretty there was to be had in that family. Little Finnie Gets a Phwoar!
I think Gils is already having an unhappy life, and this disappearance of his foster-father is not going to help matters. He might just think that maybe his real dad can't possibly be such a fuck-up and want to go off to meet him. I mean, he TOTALLY HAS TO. What an interesting storyline that would make. Mr. "When I spit on the ground, do I call that my son?"... meet your son!
Fortunately I have other plans for Lar for at least the next half-year, so I suppose Ethelwyn and/or Egelric are going to manage to keep an eye on Gils at least till then.
Does Egelric still wants to
Submitted by Devin on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 11:15.Does Egelric still wants to kill Lar?
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Eh. I don't think Lar is at
Submitted by Lothere on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 11:30.Eh. I don't think Lar is at the top of Egelric's hit list right now. Egelric himself probably is. At the moment, it would take a lot to get Egelric to even sit up and take notice of the existence of Lar.
And we don't really know whether Egelric could or would kill like that. He said at one point that he had "learned to kill on a battlefield" but specifically that it wasn't the same thing as killing (assassinating) a particular person. He "killed" Druze the first time when he freaked out with a sword in his hand, and afterwards him or Midra a few times, already sort of knowing they couldn't really be killed. But I don't think he has ever killed a living humanoid in cold blood (or even the heat of the moment, outside of war). Correct me if I'm wrong.
I just wonder what Egelric would do if presented with an actual opportunity to kill Lar nowadays. It wouldn't change the past. Would he do it?
Anyway, I have a hard time imagining such an opportunity. Lar could crush Egelric's lungs from across a room, if not do worse. Lar's a killer by trade. *incidentally misses Lar*
So is that the way Lar kills
Submitted by Devin on Wed, 08/26/2009 - 15:01.So is that the way Lar kills people crushing their lungs? He crushed my Sela's lungs
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He doesn't necessarily go
Submitted by Lothere on Wed, 08/26/2009 - 17:03.He doesn't necessarily go that far. He doesn't need to -- he can just stop the air from leaving your lungs, and you suffocate. But "crush your lungs so flat the juice will leak out your nose" makes a better threat.
I have to admit that I am a
Submitted by Devin on Thu, 08/27/2009 - 14:06.I have to admit that I am a bit excited about Aia's pregnancy, Sela is going to be an Aunt again, its wonderful. You said Llen will be very protective, does that depend if the baby is a boy or a girl. For Aia's sake I do hope the child is a girl. I'm putting in my karma for a girl. If its a girl I already have 3 potential husbands for her:
Baby Duncan -Wouldn't that be ironic the son of Iylaine's marrying Sela's niece
Baby Benedict I adore that baby hopefully he will grow to be a happy person
Baby Dunstan He's Imin and Matilda's son that interesting enough.
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Sela can't be an aunt --
Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 08/27/2009 - 14:29.Sela can't be an aunt -- she's dead!
Llen will probably be more protective if it's a boy, because if he doesn't protect his boy, his boy will get killed in no time. Plus they are really really desperate for boys. Llen doesn't know how much longer he has to live, and the next oldest elf with water nature is still a child.
That doesen't mean anything
Submitted by Devin on Thu, 08/27/2009 - 14:36.That doesen't mean anything the child will be related to her and Wulf. So Maud and Matilda can't be grandmother's because they're dead?
Does Aia realize that if its a boy he will be taken away from her.
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I guess that depends on your
Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 08/27/2009 - 14:42.I guess that depends on your definition of "being an aunt" or "being a grandmother"... Since they're dead, that kind of takes all the fun out of it, for me. Especially in the case of an aunt... it's not like the child would carry on Sela's genes or anything. (Besides, Matilda is sort-of alive... she's at least aware of the baby, right? )
I am sure Aia realizes the danger her baby would be in if it's a boy. All her life she has seen boys taken away -- either spirited away by the rebels or taken away to be killed by the nobles. I'm just not sure what she's going to do about that.
Matilda is a spirit I
Submitted by Devin on Thu, 08/27/2009 - 14:54.Matilda is a spirit I believe that spirits are always with us just watching over us. In Matilda's case she made contact with Alred which is amazing.
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Meryt by the summer of 1079
Submitted by Devin on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 07:32.Meryt by the summer of 1079 Egelric started to grow his hair and stoped wearing his peasant clothing. Would you say by that time, Egelric was starting to change in his mind and no longer thought of himself as simply Egelric Wodehead but a Squire and eventually a knight?
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Well... yes, that's what
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 07:39.Well... yes, that's what that was supposed to signify. I think he started letting his hair grow while/after he went to Scotland the one time, didn't he?
So he really wanted to be
Submitted by Devin on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 07:41.So he really wanted to be accepted by Sigefrith, Alred that whole set.
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I don't really remember what
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 07:43.I don't really remember what all he was thinking at that time. He had known for years that there was this inevitable fate for him. I think the reason why it started happening then was that he wasn't in a pissy mood with the world, and therefore didn't mind living up to the world's expectations for him.
I always preferred Egelric
Submitted by Devin on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 07:47.I always preferred Egelric as the rebel then the Knight he is. So would you say by the end of 1079 going on to 1080 he started to feel ashamed of Sela?
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I wouldn't say he was
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 07:52.I wouldn't say he was ashamed of her. He was just stuck between two worlds. I don't think he was particularly eager to go up to the castle and really become a knight and all that, either. But he was willing to conform a bit more than usual, and behave himself, and generally act like a responsible adult.
But by conforming to society
Submitted by Devin on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 08:01.But by conforming to society it fed into his ego a bit. The way he treated Sela showed that he was a bit ashamed of her. He didn't present Sela to all of his friends and their spouses and announce that this is my new wife like how Leofric did with Leila even though Eadgith was alive and had returned to the valley and in his life.
The person who put up this border between these two worlds was Egelric himself in my opinion.
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I don't think you can deduce
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 08:20.I don't think you can deduce that because he did not present Sela to the Queen that he was "ashamed of" her. He was just living with one foot in each of two worlds, and he was aware (and always had been) that the two could not really mix. I don't think he wanted them to mix either.
Don't forget that he had painted himself into a corner as regards Iylaine. He could not parade Sela all around town except wherever Iylaine was in residence. That would have been... abominable, really, no matter what his reason for not introducing the two. It was another reason for him to keep those two worlds very separated.
Egelric is rather full of himself in his way, but neither the relationship with Sela nor his submission to Alred's & Sigefrith's plans for him constitute any kind of social posturing on his part. That's not his schtick. Egelric is too antisocial to care what people think about him, good or bad.
The deal with Leof and Leila was totally different. Leof was coming from a totally different standpoint -- he's a nobleman, and at least culturally a Dane. He did not marry Leila in the Church but according to the Danish handfasting custom. While it may seem shocking to us, it was quite acceptable to Sigefrith and his friends, even if a little socially awkward: King Harold himself had two wives.
Also, as far as he knew (not that he bothered to check) Eadgith was dead or remarried. The fact that she was neither was due only to her own stubborn spirit as well as Alix's protection, so it was a safe guess on Leof's part.
But yeah, Leof is Leof. He took two wives the same way he took Britmar's title away from him. He just has a way of looking you in the eye and daring you to object. He's a force of nature. Whereas Egelric has not forgotten that he was born into indentured servitude, and he's only just getting to the point where he can look a nobleman in the eye and dare him to object (something he has yet to do with, say, Sigefrith). And I don't know whether he'll ever have the balls to do that again, even with Alred.
I'm not saying that she had
Submitted by Devin on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 08:38.I'm not saying that she had to attend all of the social functions that he did; but by sepearating these two worlds Egelric involuntarily isolated Sela. She was so moved from society that in the end she did have a somewhat lonely existence.
Would Vash truly unbounded them if Iylaine and Sela came into contact and dare I say it friends
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I meant to say "I'm Not,"
Submitted by Devin on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 08:39.I meant to say "I'm Not," Meryt.
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What makes you think that
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 08:45.What makes you think that Sela WANTED any of that? She didn't want to go live in that house -- why do you think she would want to attend dinners at Nothelm and audiences at the castle? Sela probably was a little lonely, but it wasn't human company and culture she was craving.
I think you're being hard on Egelric. He got himself into a rather impossible relationship -- both he and Sela knew that it wouldn't be easy. They both knew it from the beginning. Neither was dreaming of the day when Sela would put on a fancy dress and be presented at Court, you may be sure of that.
As for the situation with Iylaine... Vash could not have unbound Egelric and Sela -- I thought that was obvious. If he could have done that, he would have unbound himself and Iylaine long ago -- he wouldn't have had to go to Nimea.
On the contrary, I think it was made rather clear that the "or else" Vash meant when he told Egelric never to let Sela near Iylaine was that she would be killed, or at the very least taken away forever.
And yes, I think he would have done it. If not personally, he would have allowed or even ordered it to be done. When he saved Sela he was doing Egelric a huge favor -- and getting himself in huge trouble -- as it was. Above all else the one thing Vash would not tolerate was such a creature getting near his precious Iylaine.
That was typo I meant to say
Submitted by Devin on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 08:48.That was typo I meant to say "I'm not saying that Sela had to attend the social functions."
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Then what, exactly, do you
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 08:50.Then what, exactly, do you reproach him?
I don't know, I'm trying to
Submitted by Devin on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 08:58.I don't know, I'm trying to understand his relationship with Sela. It was much more complex than his relationships with Lili and Elfleda.. I just don't understand him he's too complex and its frustrating.
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He is indeed an inscrutable
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 09:14.He is indeed an inscrutable man. That's why we love him.
Meryt did Lady Sela's murder
Submitted by Devin on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 13:36.Meryt did Lady Sela's murder shock or affected Vash in any way? He did seem upset and surprisingly he buried Sela as a Khirron...
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Everything Vash felt as a
Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 13:41.Everything Vash felt as a result of that was about Egelric. He is very fond of Egelric, and he was very sorry to see Egelric hurt like that. He buried Sela the way he did to honor Egelric, and perhaps to make amends somewhat for the way she had been treated in life.
But as I've said before, Vash isn't having second thoughts about the elven caste system. He still sees Sela and even Lena as "subhuman" (or "subelf" if you prefer). If there is going to be a revolution of that nature in elven society, it won't come from Vash. It seems more likely that it would come from a MLK Jr. or Mandela-like-figure on the other side. The khírrón would have little to gain from such a revolution after all.
Its a shame Vash is ignorant
Submitted by Devin on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 14:05.Its a shame Vash is ignorant because of his upbringing... But he treats Wulf and Gils much differently.
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If there is going to be a
Submitted by Van on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 17:51.No, that sounds like a job for LAAAAAAARRRRL!!!
LET MY PEOPLE GO!
Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 19:32.LET MY PEOPLE GO!
Absolutely Not. I Want Maire
Submitted by Devin on Thu, 09/03/2009 - 20:04.Absolutely Not.
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What are the odds of Aengus
Submitted by Devin on Sat, 09/05/2009 - 09:26.What are the odds of Aengus taking Maire back?
And we know that when elven mothers die the children can feel their mother's pain but what about their fathers? If Egelric or Aengus were to die would Wulf and Penedict feel their father's pain?
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I recently said "unlikely",
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 09/05/2009 - 11:38.I recently said "unlikely", and I'm not a gambling woman, so I can't give you any better odds than that. I haven't written an Aengus chapter in so long, I don't know what all he is thinking. Knowing Aengus he is probably in some sort of "someone else is going to decide this for me" denial. He is apparently drinking his griefs away with his father, which is not good.
If he took Maire back (assuming she was sane enough to do so), I doubt he would stay in Lothere though. I would imagine they would do like they did when Maire's pregnancy was discovered: take off and go to a place where no one knew their ugly secret. (Remember it took some time for most Lotherians, never having met Magog's wife, to realize that Maire was not married to Aengus. Sigefrith and young Malcolm tried to keep that hush-hush.)
As for your second question, I think fathers must have some sort of bond with their children, because Osh was able to feel Rua's anguish that time she tried to set herself on fire. (He thought she was drowning, but that was because she was coming "face to direful face" with Eithne's vash-nature babies.)
However I haven't figured out all the modalities of that, and whether it's even true for fathers of all natures besides air. The important thing, though, is that it happens because the father is bound to the mother, so some of the father's life must pass into the baby as well. But since Aengus was never bound to Lena, that wouldn't affect Benedict at all. Nor Gils if Lar were to die.
My god your turning Aengus
Submitted by Devin on Sat, 09/05/2009 - 12:25.My god your turning Aengus into Brede. I do wonder what his house is like not Cat and co.. Does Aengus' girls like Benedict and how is he holding up is he still numb?
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I think Benedict is still
Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 09/10/2009 - 14:09.I think Benedict is still numb and traumatized. I would imagine he is mostly kept away from Aengus's kids, in part because of the state he is in, and in part because that would be hard on the girls too. "Here's this half-brother you hardly knew you had but who ruined your parents' marriage, and oh by the way Mommy isn't coming back."
In that house it has been, as Connie recently said, a miserable Christmas.
One thing for sure though
Submitted by Devin on Thu, 09/10/2009 - 14:28.One thing for sure though Aengus' children will be very interesting in the future. Maire wasn't particularly close to her baby boy so i imagine he's not really pinying over her like the girls are.. I do feel bad for the girls though.
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Ete already seems like a
Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 09/10/2009 - 14:32.Ete already seems like a real handful. Aengus saw bruises on Marie's arms, and the first thing he thought was that Ete had done it.
Is Ete the oldest girl? I
Submitted by Devin on Thu, 09/10/2009 - 14:33.Is Ete the oldest girl?
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Never mind she is. Does Ete
Submitted by Devin on Thu, 09/10/2009 - 14:37.Never mind she is. Does Ete have some of Marie's behaviour, is she a lot like her?
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As I recall, it has been
Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 09/10/2009 - 14:48.As I recall, it has been mentioned a time or two that Ete is very like Maire. Aileann seems a little softer and sweeter and more Aengus-like.
Oh boy. I don't think the
Submitted by Devin on Thu, 09/10/2009 - 14:54.Oh boy. I don't think the girls well atleast Ete will be fans of Penedict anytime soon. A part of me is kind of hoping that Aengus will take Maire back so that he could leave the valley and leave Penedict behind with Cat and Paul. But I hope he doesen't.
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Sorry for spamming your
Submitted by Van on Thu, 09/10/2009 - 18:55.Sorry for spamming your thread, Devin, but I just kind of feel the need to say... personally, I think there is a lot more story potential in the event that Aengus does take Maire back. At first I was thinking Aed would have more to say on the subject, but since he's not doing anything, I don't imagine her execution or anything of the like would really have as many repercussions as it would have if he'd been more affected (unless he had regrets it years later or something, which would take a loooooooong time to get to). At this point, if Maire is executed, or sent off to a convent, or locked away in a tower for the rest of her days... well, that's that for a while.
If Aengus takes her back, however... well, there's always the awkward situations where people come and visit and then have to walk on eggshells, the change in the girls' relationship with their mother, the change in the relationship between Aengus and Maire themselves, Penedict not being able to visit his dad in case his stepmom tries to kill him, the controversy surrounding any future children of Aengus and Maire, Egelric's reaction to Maire going unpunished, etc.
But that's just my humble opinion. I'd be interested to see what happens if he doesn't take her back as well, I'm just saying that I personally feel that there are more directions open if he does.
I just find it unrealistic
Submitted by Devin on Thu, 09/10/2009 - 19:13.I just find it unrealistic if Maire went back to her normal life after what she did. Aengus would risk
ostracization from all of his friends and probably end up moving from the valley. I think what is best for the story and for everyone is for Maire to be hanged until her neck is broken or she lives a life of poverty locked up in a nunnery.
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Oh no, I'm not saying she
Submitted by Van on Thu, 09/10/2009 - 19:22.Oh no, I'm not saying she would go back to her normal life, because obviously she wouldn't. What I was talking about is if she tried to go back to normal life (or more like someone decides to take her home and she just silently goes along with it).
Meryt did Sela and Aia knew
Submitted by Devin on Sat, 09/12/2009 - 11:01.Meryt did Sela and Aia knew where Dasi and Khara lived?
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Probably not while they were
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 09/12/2009 - 11:10.Probably not while they were still living in the caves. But I'm sure they met Dasi in later years.
They weren't close to that family or anything. Imin's insistence one time about "your cousin" to Dasi's boys was more based on the fact that they had the same blood (which was apparently not good enough for Lar) than on any kind of family affection.
The elves who lived in the caves have never been close to the elves on the other side of the river -- not since they had to move into the caves in the first place. Lately it has gotten to the point that the elves in the forest are seen almost as collaborators with the khírrón. They seem fine with the status quo -- whereas Lar's band is engaged in active resistance.
Oh, so Sela and Aia never
Submitted by Devin on Sat, 09/12/2009 - 11:40.Oh, so Sela and Aia never saw their aunt and cousins.
So Meryt when do you feel like being interviewed?
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No, they never met any of
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 09/12/2009 - 11:45.No, they never met any of Khara's family. I am not sure how their mother ended up where she did, she might not be from that village originally, I don't know. According to Aia, their father was in love with their mother, but he was an outlaw, so I don't know how they lived or met or anything. Sallama might have been from the caves originally. But anyway, Sela and Aia grew up in the forest, at least from before the birth of Aia.
So are we still on for the interview? When is your project due--Monday morning? Today is probably not good since we are expecting a guy from the phone company to come install a second internet connection at some unpredictable time. But I could do it tomorrow.
Ok, is 2morrow at 5 good? My
Submitted by Devin on Sat, 09/12/2009 - 11:53.Ok, is 2morrow at 5 good? My professor is looking foward to reading the interview. She likes the concept of Lothere.
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If you mean 5 PM New York
Submitted by Lothere on Sat, 09/12/2009 - 11:54.If you mean 5 PM New York time, 2 PM Pacific time, that suits me just fine. Shall we meet in the chat?
yes please I Want Maire
Submitted by Devin on Sat, 09/12/2009 - 11:58.yes please
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Is NYC 5PM = Paris 11PM ? If
Submitted by François on Sun, 09/13/2009 - 01:34.Is NYC 5PM = Paris 11PM ? If so, I would be very interested into looking at this interview on the chat.
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I don't mind, if it doesn't
Submitted by Lothere on Sun, 09/13/2009 - 06:03.I don't mind, if it doesn't bother Devin. It's his project for school so I don't want to break the rules or anything of what his assignment is.
But no heckling!
Sure everyone is welcomed to
Submitted by Devin on Sun, 09/13/2009 - 06:25.Sure everyone is welcomed to be in the chat while I interview Meryt..
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Thanks, Devin. So, 11 pm in
Submitted by François on Sun, 09/13/2009 - 07:50.Thanks, Devin. So, 11 pm in Paris ?
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Devin, did you save
Submitted by François on Mon, 09/14/2009 - 09:48.Devin, did you save Lothere's interview ? If so, could you post it on the forum ? I wasn't able to read it yesterday since it was quite late in France and I had classes in the morning. But I would be very interested reading it.
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I have posted the whole
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 09/14/2009 - 10:13.I have posted the whole interview plus the face-licking-crazy chat party that followed HERE. I hope I didn't embarrass myself too much, I am not usually on my best behavior in the chat since the history expires after 24 hours. What happens in the chat stays in the chat!
Thanks Meryt! My notes are
Submitted by Devin on Mon, 09/14/2009 - 12:39.Thanks Meryt! My notes are all over the place.
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Lothere, I want to point out
Submitted by François on Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:41.Lothere, I want to point out that I know how to use internet ! But I was too tired yesterday night and I had to play Tomasi trumpet concerto in the morning...
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Sure, sure, blame Tomasi!
Submitted by Lothere on Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:45.Sure, sure, blame Tomasi!
And it's 1 am in France and
Submitted by François on Mon, 09/14/2009 - 14:58.And it's 1 am in France and I'm still reading the interview because I want to ! And I'm quoting you soon !
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Meryt when will we be seeing
Submitted by Devin on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 14:52.Meryt when will we be seeing Trudi again, how's she enjoying her new life and status as a knight's wife? Her husband is a moron though.
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